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heise + | Building proposal 2020: Inexpensive gamer PC for full HD enjoyment

Even with a tight budget, you can put together a computer that displays games in Full HD smoothly. You don’t have to save on RAM or SSD.

Construction proposal 2020: Inexpensive gamer PC for Full HD enjoyment Fleet SSD, lots of RAM The Gamer Budget The installation Finale and fine-tuning Item in c’t 24 / 2020 read For PC buyers on a tight budget, 2020 is a good year. Not only that storage prices are falling steadily. There are finally new processors and graphics cards in the entry-level segment that allow gaming in Full HD (1920 × 1080) at high Enable detail level without annoying stuttering.

One of these new releases is the Radeon RX 5500 XT from AMD’s first generation of navigation systems. It delivers roughly the performance of an RX 590, but goes to work much more efficiently. With 8 GB it has more memory reserves than Nvidia’s equally fast GeForce GTX 1660 with 6 GB. However, you have to do without hardware-accelerated ray tracing effects in this price range. We chose the round 200 Euro expensive Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 2020 XT, which is also under full 3D use Remains whisper-quiet as long as you operate the card in quiet mode. All you have to do is push the small slide switch on the edge in the direction of the connection strip.

With the processor, we initially had a lot more difficulties. According to our article on core scaling in 3D games, it was clear that it had to be a quad-core CPU with SMT (Simultaneous Multi-Threading, called Hyper-Threading at Intel). Whether it should come from AMD or Intel was hotly debated because the manufacturers supply equivalent CPUs. AMD has the edge in application performance and can use the more modern B 94 – Throw in the chipset with support for PCIe 4.0. It also supports upcoming Zen 3 processors, which promise another performance boost, especially in games. Boards with the cheaper, but limited to PCIe 3.0 A 200 – When we put the systems together, chipsets were just as expensive as the B 550 he, which is why we did not consider them.

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Results HWI survey Ryzen 5000: Zen 3 is popular!

Jordi Agricola 19 October 2020 16: 16 57 Comments

Preface Last Friday, we posted a questionnaire about HWI attendees’ upgrade plans when it comes to processors. We received almost 2. 800 responses, and the relevant news item received ample 300 replied times – enough to discuss!

In a little over two weeks, AMD’s Ryzen 5000 chips are hitting the (digital) shelves, and the red camp has big promises for its new Zen 3 models. On the side of Intel, Rocket Lake is under construction, but it is expected that it will take until February-March 2021 before we see those CPUs. The main question we had was: Are you convinced by what AMD has shown, and will Ryzen 5000 the next processor series to settle into your system?

The majority take the leap to Zen 3 For 63, 5 percent of the participants answered that question ‘yes’. Of course, this survey was conducted before the chips are actually on the market, and – possibly more importantly – the independent tests and reviews have not yet arrived. In addition, the title and format of the questionnaire naturally allows for some self-selection as far as participants are concerned, so while the results give a nice indication of the market, they are probably not fully representative. On the following pages we will further elaborate on the background information that we have collected with the questions.

Gaming processors: AMD's Ryzen 5 5600X is the new mid-range recommendation

After the two upper-class models Ryzen 9 5950 X and Ryzen 9 5900 X are also the two cheaper processors Ryzen 7 5800 X and Ryzen 5 5600 X arrived in our editorial office. They use the same Zen 3 architecture (code name Vermeer) and fit into AM4 motherboards, but are cheaper with eight or six cores. We tested the newcomers in their first 3D games and ran the Cinebench R render benchmark 20 hunted.

For PC gamers, the Ryzen 5 5000 X interesting: Thanks to increased computing power per cycle (Instructions per Cycle, IPC) it shows everyone 3000 he predecessors the taillights, appeals to most games -Engines with 12 Threads already out.

Due to similar prices, a comparison to the eight-core Ryzen 7 is possible 3700 X an: In the shooter “Metro: Exodus” the Ryzen 5 is 5600 X about 36 Percent faster in the action adventure “Rise of the Tomb Raider” 35 percent and in the shooter “Far Cry 5” 27 percent. The only exception: the badly scaling “Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey” with 6 percent higher frame rate.

Game benchmarks, measured under Windows 10 (2004), 16 GByte RAM (according to specification) and GeForce RTX 3080 (456. 71 WHQL) Game Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey Metro: Exodu s Shadow of the Tomb Raider Far Cry 5 Settings DX 11, Full HD, High DX 12, Full HD, Normal DX 12, Full HD, High, SMAA, 16 x AF DX 11, Full HD, High, SMAA Ryzen 9 5900 X 126 fps 195 fps 189 fps 179 fps Ryzen 7 5800 X 124 fps 196 fps 179 fps 162 fps Ryzen 5 5600 X 119 fps 191 fps 178 fps 158 fps Core i9 – 10900 K 127 fps 186 fps 175 fps 164 fps Ryzen 9 3900 X 120 fps 143 fps 136 fps 131 fps Ryzen 7 3700 X 112 fps 140 fps 132 fps 124 fps Ryzen 5 3600 105 fps 137 fps 128 fps 123 fps The Ryzen 9 5900 X can move a bit away from the Ryzen 7 in games thanks to higher clock frequencies 5800 X and Ryzen 5 5600 X submit the additional CPU cores only bring it a noticeable advantage in applications.

More performance per CPU core In the multith reading test of the Cinebench R render benchmark 20 the Ryzen 5 reaches 5600 X 4386 Points, the Ryzen 7 3700 X 4910 Points. Cinebench scales well with CPU cores and clock frequencies and thus shows that increased performance per core means the lower number of CPU cores (8 vs. 6, – 27 percent). In the single-threading benchmark, the six-core just manages to exceed the 600 he brand and thus leaves all 3000 he Ryzen and Intel 10. Core i generation behind.

Benchmark Cinebench R 20 mode single threading Multithreading Ryzen 9 5900 X 639 8639 Ryzen 7 5800 X 627 6024 Ryzen 5 5600 X 601 4386 Core i9 – 10900 K 537 6384 Ryzen 9 3900 X 534 7372 Ryzen 7 3700 X 513 4910 Intel has meanwhile too Little to laugh about in the middle class . In 3D games, the Ryzen 5 takes it 5000 X even with the fastest gen – 10 – Model Core i9 – 10900Purchase. The opponents Core i5 – 10600 K and Core i7- 10700 K are 400 to 500 MHz slower than the Core i9.

Ryzen 7 5800 X: expensive and hot During Ryzen 5 5000 X contains a purchase recommendation, it looks for the Ryzen 7 5800 X worse. In 3D games it is only slightly faster than the Ryzen 5 5600 X, costs with 450 Euro but 50 percent more. If you want to have additional CPU cores, you can go directly to the 12 – Kerner Ryzen 9 5900 X for 550 Euros grab – provided the processors are available.

In addition, the Ryzen 7 5800 X difficult to cool at the factory because it is a Thermal Design Power (TDP) from 90 instead of 65 Watt like the Ryzen 5 5600 X has. In practice this means: He may up to 142 instead of 88 Watt record (from AMD within Package Power Tracking so provided). In the case of the eight-core, all the waste heat is concentrated on the I / O die and a single chiplet, which limits the heat transfer to the cooler. The two Ryzen 9 processors have the same TDP, but an additional CPU chiplet.

Even with compact water cooling including 280 – mm radiator – here a NZXT X 63 – the CPU temperature rises up to 90 degrees Celsius, for example in Cinebench R 20. This in turn limits the boost.

Under high load, the Ryzen 7 reaches 5800 X even with a good cooler 90 ° C.

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Users can set the TDP level in the Ryzen Master Tool themselves to 65 Watt (88 Watt PPT) to improve temperatures. According to AMD’s Director of Technical Marketing Robert Hallock, new undervolting functions will also come in the future. One 3700 X successor with 65 Watt TDP has not been announced by the chip manufacturer.

Purchase recommendation For players the Ryzen 5 contains 5600 X a clear purchase recommendation . It is the cheapest model from AMDs so far 5000 series, but does not have to hide from the more expensive processors in 3D titles. Compared to Intel’s Core-i 8639 generation AMD’s six-core can even compete with the fastest models.

If you are looking for a pure gaming CPU, you can safely go to the Ryzen 5 5600 X grab. The surcharge for Ryzen 7 5800 X is better off with the graphics card – the latter is faster than the processor in most games anyway. Users, for whom money plays a subordinate role and who do not want to compromise, use the Ryzen 9 5900 X.

AMD continues to sell for tighter budgets 3000 models like the Ryzen 5 3600. The latter costs just once 180 Euro and thanks to the very good price-performance ratio is part of the basic configuration of our optimal PC 2021.

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AMD’s New Zen 3 Die Revealed In Photos



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Die shots of AMD’s all-new 5000 series CPUs have been taken by news outlet Hardwareluxx from one of its community members who had the courage to destroy a shiny new Ryzen 5 5600X for the sole purpose of seeing exactly what Zen 3 looks like under the hood.

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You’ll notice the destruction when the enthusiast de-lidded the processor, but there are some more interesting pictures in the album. Looking at the pictures, you can see both the I/O Die (IOD) and the Core Compute Die (CCD) that houses the eight Zen 3 cores on the Ryzen 5 5600X (two of them are disabled to make a six-core chip).

We can also see the mounting pads next to the CCD for a second CCD, which would be installed for a Ryzen 9 chip. In the closeup shots, you can see some of the CPU cores themselves and the L3 cache in the middle of the CCD. Moving over to the IOD, you can see all the components that make up that unit, as well.

If you are unfamiliar with 3rd- and 4th-gen Ryzen architectures, they work on a multi-die based system. The cores and cache are housed in their own dies called CCDs, while the memory, I/O, and communication between CCDs (via the Infinity Fabric) is handled by the I/O Die. This allows AMD to use different nodes for different dies, which is more efficient for manufacturing CPUs. Specifically, the I/O die is on TSMC’s older 12nm process, while the CCDs use the 7nm node from TSMC. The bigger 12nm I/O die is much cheaper to produce.

It’s cool to see real shots of the new Ryzen 5000 series CCDs and I/O die, not just animated slides from AMD, even if a Ryzen 5 5600X had to be sacrificed in the process.