A supercomputer based on AMD’s Zyc 3 Epyc processors and next-generation Instinct computing cards offers a maximum of 550 petaFLOPS computing power.
A new supercomputer is being built in Finland. CSC – The supercomputer to be built in the Kajaani data center of the Science Information Technology Center will be known as LUMI (Large Unified Modern Infrastructure) and is part of the EU’s EuroHPC project.
LUMI is based on Hewlett Packard Enterprise’s HPE Cray EX supercomputer, which utilizes AMD’s 64 core Zen 3 architecture-based Genoa Epyc processors and next-generation Instinct counting cards. The supercomputer will provide more than 550 the theoretical maximum performance of petaFLOPS, most of which is generated by spreadsheets.
Environmental factors have also been taken into account in the construction of LUMI and a maximum of 200 megawatts of hydropower has been allocated for its use. In addition, the supercomputer’s waste heat is intended to cover 20% of the heating of the entire Renfors Ranta business area and at the same time reduce Kajaani’s carbon footprint.
The supercomputer has a budget of 144, EUR 5 million and over the entire LUMI project EUR 200 million, of which half
A network of countries from Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Poland, Sweden, Switzerland and the Czech Republic is building the LUMI supercomputer as part of the EU funding project EuroHPC. By the end 2021 it should go fully online with a peak computing power of 552 PetaFlops and expected 375 PetaFlops in the common Linpack benchmark – this corresponds to 375 to 552 Quadrillion floating point operations per second with double precision (FP 64).
According to the announcement, not yet presented processors and GPU accelerators from AMD will be used. Epyc – 7003 – CPUs with Zen 3 technology and Radeon Instinct cards with a CDNA architecture designed for compute, including AI functions, fit the schedule. We’re talking about more than 200. 000 CPU -Cores consisting of 64 – core processors. HPE takes over the construction in Kajaani, Finland.
Globally at the fore LUMI would start today, it would be one of the two fastest supercomputers in the world – currently number 1 in the top 500 – the Japanese Fungaku has a top computing performance of 514 PFlops or 416 Linpack-PFlops. In the coming year, however, more supercomputers will go into operation, including the exascale Frontier system (also with AMD hardware), but LUMI will still be one of the fastest in the world.
The EU controls half of a good 200 million euros for the construction and operation and thus secures 50 Percentage of the computing power, the other half comes from the responsible national association, whose members have partial access to the supercomputer. You can decide for yourself which calculations run on LUMI.
Like the Italian EuroHPC supercomputer Leonardo, the system is primarily intended for weather simulations (keyword: climate change) and for research into diseases. The industry has access to materials research, among other things.
The research association CINECA combines Intel’s Xeon processors with Nvidia’s Ampere GPU accelerators A 100. At similar costs, the supercomputer should be about half the FP 64 – computing power like LUMI
Apparently AMD wants to prevent possible bottlenecks in the run-up to the start of sales of the new processors and graphics cards – or at least they want to try this. A document sent to the partners contains specific guidelines for the sale of the Ryzen 5000 processors based on the Zen 3 architecture and the Radeon RX – 6000 – Graphics cards based on the Navi-2 architecture.
According to AMD, the launch should be like this “smoothly and successfully” as possible. This primarily relates to the sale or the associated processes – like an inventory sold out in seconds.
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The measures proposed by AMD include an automatic detection of bots. In addition to automatic mechanisms, other measures, such as various CAPTCHA implementations, should help. The number of pieces per order should be limited. One graphics card or one processor per customer / purchase with the same name, e-mail and / or address.
If a type of reservation is offered, a queue should be set up. This should be processed sequentially. If a product is no longer available, a notification system should be offered. At the start, the shops should process the orders manually in order to be able to validate them better. In the reseller segment (B2B) there will also be a limit in the first three weeks after the start of sales, from which end customers should benefit, as they should primarily be supplied will take hold remains to be seen. The first four Ryzen 5000 models will be available from November 5th. It is difficult to assess whether there will be bottlenecks here as well. The graphics cards appear
AMD Big Navi, RX 6000, Navi 2x, RDNA 2. Whatever the name, AMD’s next-generation GPUs are promising big performance and efficiency gains, along with feature parity with Nvidia in terms of ray tracing support. Will Team Red finally take the pole position in our GPU hierarchy and lay claim to the crown for the best graphics card, or will the Nvidia Ampere architecture cards keep the top spots? It’s too soon to say, but here’s everything we know about AMD Big Navi, including the RDNA 2 architecture, potential specifications, performance, release date and pricing.
With Nvidia’s GeForce RTX 3090, GeForce RTX 3080, and GeForce RTX 3070 now revealed, and the first two officially launched, the ball is in AMD’s court. There are various ways of looking at the Nvidia Ampere launch. It’s Nvidia doing its best to bury AMD before Big Navi even steps out the door, or Nvidia is scared of what AMD is doing with RDNA 2, or Nvidia rushed the launch to get ahead of the holiday shopping spree, or … you get the point. The RTX 3080 and 3070 appear to be priced reasonably (relative to the Turing launch at least), and demand right now is very high. Frankly, AMD would have likely benefitted if it could have launched Big Navi already, but it has a lot of other balls it’s juggling (like Zen 3).
We’ve done our best to sort fact from fiction, but even without hard numbers from AMD, we have a good idea of what to expect. The Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5 hardware are basically a marriage of Big Navi with a Zen 2 CPU, giving us clues as to where Big Navi is likely to land in the PC world. If AMD plays its cards right, perhaps Big Navi will finally put AMD’s high graphics card power consumption behind it. Nvidia’s RTX 30-series cards leave plenty of room for AMD to catch up, considering the 3080 and 3090 have the highest Nvidia TDPs for single GPUs ever. Let’s start at the top, with the new RDNA 2 architecture that powers RX 6000 / Big Navi / Navi 2x. Here’s what we know, expect, and occasionally guess for the AMD’s upcoming GPUs.
Big Navi / RDNA 2 at a Glance
Up to 80 CUs / 5120 shaders
50% better performance per watt
Coming October 28 (confirmed)
Pricing of $549-$599 for RX 6900 XT (rumor, big spoonful of salt)
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The RDNA 2 Architecture in Big Navi
Every generation of GPUs is built from a core architecture, and each architecture offers improvements over the previous generation. It’s an iterative and additive process that never really ends. AMD’s GCN architecture went from first generation for its HD 7000 cards in 2012 up through fifth gen in the Vega and Radeon VII cards in 2017-2019. The RDNA architecture that powers the RX 5000 series of AMD GPUs arrived in mid 2019, bringing major improvements to efficiency and overall performance. RDNA 2 looks to double down on those improvements in late 2020.
First, a quick recap of RDNA 1 is in order. The biggest changes with RDNA 1 over GCN involve a redistribution of resources and a change in how instructions are handled. In some ways, RDNA doesn’t appear to be all that different from GCN. The instruction set is the same, but how those instructions are dispatched and executed has been improved. RDNA also adds working support for primitive shaders, something present in the Vega GCN architecture that never got turned on due to complications.
Perhaps the most noteworthy update is that the wavefronts—the core unit of work that gets executed—have been changed from being 64 threads wide with four SIMD16 execution units, to being 32 threads wide with a single SIMD32 execution unit. SIMD stands for Single Instruction, Multiple Data; it’s a vector processing element that optimizes workloads where the same instruction needs to be run on large chunks of data, which is common in graphics workloads.
This matching of the wavefront size to the SIMD size helps improve efficiency. GCN issued one instruction per wave every four cycles; RDNA issues an instruction every cycle. GCN used a wavefront of 64 threads (work items); RDNA supports 32- and 64-thread wavefronts. GCN has a Compute Unit (CU) with 64 GPU cores, 4 TMUs (Texture Mapping Units) and memory access logic. RDNA implements a new Workgroup Processor (WGP) that consists of two CUs, with each CU still providing the same 64 GPU cores and 4 TMUs plus memory access logic.
How much do these changes matter when it comes to actual performance and efficiency? It’s perhaps best illustrated by looking at the Radeon VII, AMD’s last GCN GPU, and comparing it with the RX 5700 XT. Radeon VII has 60 CUs, 3840 GPU cores, 16GB of HBM2 memory with 1 TBps of bandwidth, a GPU clock speed of up to 1750 MHz, and a theoretical peak performance rating of 13.8 TFLOPS. The RX 5700 XT has 40 CUs, 2560 GPU cores, 8GB of GDDR6 memory with 448 GBps of bandwidth, and clocks at up to 1905 MHz with peak performance of 9.75 TFLOPS.
On paper, Radeon VII looks like it should come out with an easy victory. In practice, across a dozen games that we’ve tested, the RX 5700 XT is slightly faster at 1080p gaming and slightly slower at 1440p. Only at 4K is the Radeon VII able to manage a 7% lead, helped no doubt by its memory bandwidth. Overall, the Radeon VII only has a 1-2% performance advantage, but it uses 300W compared to the RX 5700 XT’s 225W.
In short, AMD is able to deliver roughly the same performance as the previous generation, with a third fewer cores, less than half the memory bandwidth and using 25% less power. That’s a very impressive showing, and while TSMC’s 7nm FinFET manufacturing process certainly warrants some of the credit (especially in regards to power), the performance uplift is mostly thanks to the RDNA architecture.
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That’s a lot of RDNA discussion, but it’s important because RDNA 2 appears to carry over all of that, with one major new addition: Support for ray tracing. It also supports Variable Rate Shading (VRS), which is part of the DirectX 12 Ultimate spec. There will certainly be other tweaks to the architecture, as AMD is making some big claims about Big Navi / RDNA 2 / Navi 2x when it comes to performance per watt. Specifically, AMD says RDNA 2 will offer 50% more performance per watt than RDNA 1, which is frankly a huge jump—the same large jump RDNA 1 saw relative to GCN.
It means AMD claims RDNA 2 will deliver either the same performance while using 33% less power, or 50% higher performance with the same power, or most likely some in between solution with higher performance and lower power requirements. Of course, there’s another way to read things. RDNA 2 could be up to 1.5X performance per watt, if you restrict it to the same performance level as RDNA 1. That’s pretty much what Nvidia is saying with its 1.9X efficiency increase on Ampere. Again, #salt.
The one thing we know for certain is that RDNA 2 / Big Navi / RX 6000 GPUs will all support ray tracing. That will bring AMD up to feature parity with Nvidia. There was some question as to whether AMD would use the same BVH approach to ray tracing calculations as Nvidia, and with the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X announcements out of the way, the answer appears to be yes.
If you’re not familiar with the term BVH, it stands for Bounding Volume Hierarchy and is used to efficiently find ray and triangle intersections; you can read more about it in our discussion of Nvidia’s Turing architecture and its ray tracing algorithm. While AMD didn’t provide much detail on its BVH hardware, BVH as a core aspect of ray tracing was definitely mentioned, and we heard similar talk about ray tracing and BVH with the VulkanRT and DirectX 12 Ultimate announcements.
We don’t know how much ray tracing hardware is present, or how fast will it be. Even if AMD takes the same approach as Nvidia and puts one RT core (or whatever AMD wants to call it) into each CU, the comparison between AMD and Nvidia isn’t clear cut. Nvidia for example says it roughly doubled the performance of its RT cores in Ampere. Will AMD’s RT cores be like Nvidia’s RT Gen1, RT Gen2, or something else? There are at least a few rumors or hints that Big Navi might not even have RT cores as such, but will instead use some optimized shader logic and large caches to boost RT shader calculations. The fact is, we don’t know yet and won’t know until AMD says more.
Note that Nvidia also has Tensor cores in its Turing architecture, which are used for deep learning and AI computations, as well as DLSS (Deep Learning Super Sampling), which has now been generalized with DLSS 2.0 (and DLSS 2.1) to improve performance and image quality and make it easier for games to implement DLSS. So far, AMD has said nothing about RDNA 2 / Navi 2x including Tensor cores or an equivalent to DLSS, though AMD’s CAS (Contrast Aware Sharpening) and RIS (Radeon Image Sharpening) do overlap with DLSS in some ways. Recently, Sony patents detailed a DLSS-like technique for image reconstruction, presumably for the PlayStation 5. It may be possible to do that without any Tensor cores, using just the FP16 or INT8 capabilities of Navi 2x.
We also know that AMD is planning multiple Navi 2x products, and we expect to see extreme, high-end and mainstream options—though budget Navi 2x seems unlikely in the near term, given RX 5500 XT launched in early 2020. AMD could launch multiple GPUs in a relatively short period of time, but more likely we’ll see the highest performance options first, followed by high-end and eventually mid-range solutions. Some of those may not happen until 2021, however.
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Potential Big Navi / Navi 2x Specifications
What does all of this mean for RX 6000 / Big Navi / RDNA 2 desktop GPUs? Based on the Xbox Series X, AMD is fully capable of building an RDNA 2 / Big Navi GPU with at least 52 CUs, and very likely can and will go much higher. AMD is also using two completely different GPU configurations for the Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5, and a third configuration for Xbox Series S, though likely none of those precise configurations will actually end up in a PC graphics card. Regardless, the upcoming consoles give us a minimum baseline for what AMD can do with Big Navi.
AMD has a lot of options available. The PC Navi 2x GPUs are focused purely on graphics, unlike the consoles. AMD also doesn’t benefit from the console sales or subsidies from Sony and Microsoft—each of the new consoles will likely ship close to 100 million units over the coming years, and Sony and MS can take a loss on the hardware because they make it back on software sales. There’s a balancing act between chip size, clock speed, and power, and every processor can prioritize things differently. Larger chips use more power and cost more to manufacture, and they typically run at lower clock speeds to compensate. Smaller chips have better yields, cost less, and use less power, but for GPUs there’s a lot of base functionality that has to be present, so a chip that’s half the performance usually isn’t half the size.
Looking at Navi 10 and RDNA 1, it’s not a stretch to imagine AMD shoving twice the number of GPU cores into a Navi 2x GPU. Navi 10 is relatively small at just 251mm square, and AMD has used much larger die sizes in the past. Anyway, let’s cut to the chase. There have been lots of rumors floating around, but with only weeks separating us from the official Big Navi launch, we’re relatively confident in many of the core specs. A GPU’s maximum CU count can’t be exceeded, but disabling parts of each GPU is common practice and has been for years.
The following table lists potential specs, based on our best information. The question marks indicate our own best guesses based on rumors, previous GPU launches, and the current graphics card market. We’ve run some numbers to help fill in the remaining data, though there’s still plenty of wiggle room for AMD. It’s unlikely AMD will go significantly higher or lower than these estimates, but anywhere within about 10% is feasible.
The highest spec rumors point to a Navi 21 GPU with 80 CUs and 5120 GPU cores, and more than double the size (536mm square) of the current Navi 10 used in the RX 5700 XT. While there are very good sources on the CU and core counts, we’d take the die size with a scoop of salt. It’s entirely possible AMD has gone with a huge die for Navi 21, but if that figure is correct, it’s the biggest AMD GPU since 2015’s Fiji (R9 Fury X).
That also means it’s likely very power hungry, and while some leaks on TBP (Total Board Power) have come out, the way AMD calculates TBP vs. TGP (Total Graphics Power) is a bit muddy. Based on the TBP figures, it looks like AMD will likely have a chip that’s close to GeForce RTX 3080 in terms of power (give or take).
Big Navi / RDNA 2 has to add support for ray tracing and some other tech, which should require quite a few transistors. AMD may also go with very large caches, which would help overcome potential bandwidth limitations caused by the somewhat narrow 256-bit and 192-bit bus widths. Note that Nvidia has opted for a 320-bit bus on the 3080 and 384-bit on the 3090, plus faster GDDR6X memory.
The real question is whether AMD has tuned the shader cores similar to what Nvidia did with Turing, adding concurrent FP32 and INT32 pipelines. If so, performance on the biggest of the Big Navi chips could definitely give the RTX 3080 some needed competition. The ray tracing hardware may still not be up to Turing levels, however, never mind Ampere. Based on some of the information surrounding the Xbox Series X, it seems like the RT support will end up with lower ray/triangle intersection performance than Nvidia’s hardware.
Not surprisingly, clock speeds are all still unknown. So many ‘leaks’ have happened with maximum boost clocks going as high as 2.4GHz, or as low as 1.7GHz. It’s impossible to know for certain where AMD will land, but we’ve aimed at a medium/high value that will deliver the promised performance per Watt gains. TSMC’s N7 process is generally better than the Samsun 8N that Nvidia’s using for Ampere, but then AMD has generally lagged behind Nvidia when it comes to architecture designs (at least for the past seven years).
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Getting back to the memory side of things, AMD’s configurations are interesting but leave us with a lot of questions. Most rumors and leaks point to 16GB of GDDR6 for the top RX 6900 XT and RX 6800 XT, but only 12GB for the RX 6700 XT. The memory capacities look good, with all of the GPUs at least matching the RTX 3080, but bus widths and speeds could be a big problem.
If AMD uses 16GB and 256-bit as expected, even with the fastest 16Gbps GDDR6 that’s still only 512GBps of bandwidth. The 6900 XT potentially doubles compute performance of the current RX 5700 XT, with twice the VRAM capacity, and yet it would only have 14% more bandwidth. The 16GB 6800 XT with 14 Gbps GDDR6 would end up with the same bandwidth as the current RX 5700 series, while the RX 6500 would have 8GB and an even narrower bus. Depending on architecture, it could still come close to RX 5700 levels of performance, but we’ll have to wait and see.
This is why many expect Big Navi / RDNA 2 to come with massive L2 caches. Double the cache size and you can avoid hitting memory as hard, which might be sufficient to get around the GDDR6 bandwidth limitations. We’ve also heard ray tracing shader calculations can get a hefty performance boost by adding more cache, and as noted above there are hints this is what AMD is doing. We’ll know more by the end of the month.
Big Navi / Navi 2x Graphics Card Model Names
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What will AMD call the retail products using Big Navi / Navi 2x GPUs? AMD has at least revealed that the Navi 2x family will be sold under the RX 6000 series, which is what most of us expected. Beyond that, there are still a few remaining questions.
AMD has said it will launch a whole series of Navi 2x GPUs. The Navi 1x family consists of RX 5700 XT, RX 5700, RX 5600 XT, and RX 5500 XT (in 4GB and 8GB models), along with RX 5600/5500/5300 models for the OEM market that lack the XT suffix. AMD could simply add 1000 points to the current models, but we expect there will be a few more options this round.
The top model will almost certainly be called RX 6900 XT, with the various performance tiers as RX 6800 XT, 6700 XT, etc. It also looks like AMD is moving into higher performance segments, going by the 6900 and 6800 model numbers, with the 5600 XT replacement ending up as the 6700 XT. The 5500 XT meanwhile will eventually be replaced by 6500 XT is our assumption, so there’s a 200 point gap between the high-end 6700 and the mainstream/budget 6500.
All of this could of course change, as model names are relatively easy to update (though packaging has to be complete as well). So, the above is what leaks and rumors currently indicate. We expect the consumer models will keep the XT suffix, and AMD can continue to do non-XT models for the OEM market. We think it would be great to have more consistent branding, but we’ll have to see what AMD decides to do.
RX 6000 / Big Navi / RDNA 2 Release Date
AMD has reiterated many times this year that RDNA 2, aka Big Navi—which AMD is even using now in homage to the enthusiast community’s adoption of that moniker—will arrive before the end of 2020. AMD has now announced a Future of Radeon PC Gaming event that will take place on October 28.
AMD could potentially launch the RX 6000 GPUs at that time, but more likely is that it will first reveal the architecture, specs, and other details similar to what Nvidia did with it’s Ampere announcement. That means actual GPUs will probably arrive in November, just in time for the holiday shoppers.
While the impact of COVID-19 around the globe is immense, AMD still plans on launching at least some Navi 2x parts in 2020. However, given the late date of the event, it’s possible we will only see the top two products from RDNA 2 in 2020. It might be more than that, but most new GPU families roll out over a period of several months.
RX 6000 / Big Navi / Navi 2x Cost
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We provided our own estimated pricing based on the potential performance and graphics card market in the table near the top. We’ve changed those estimates quite a bit since the Nvidia Ampere announcement, as AMD can’t hope to sell slower cards at equal or higher pricing. On the other hand, some rumors suggest RX 6900 XT won’t be far from RTX 3080 performance, so higher prices are certainly possible.
Officially, AMD hasn’t said anything in regards to pricing yet, and that will likely remain the case until the actual launch. Other factors, like the price of competing Nvidia (and maybe even Intel DG1) GPUs, will be considered as well. We can look back at the Navi 10 / RX 5700 XT launch for context.
Rumors came out more than six months before launch listing various prices. We saw everything from RTX 2080 performance for $250 to $500, or RTX 2060 performance for under $200. AMD officially revealed prices of $449 for the RX 5700 XT and $379 for the RX 5700 about a month before launch.
After the initial RX 5700 XT reveal, Nvidia (to the surprise of pretty much no one) launched its RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2060 Super, providing improved performance at lower prices. (The RTX 2080 Super was also announced, but it didn’t launch until two weeks after the RX 5700 series.) Just a few days before launch, AMD then dropped the prices of its RX 5700 XT to $399, and the RX 5700 to $349, making them far more appealing. (The RX 5600 XT arrived about six months later priced at $299.) AMD would later go on to state that this was all premeditated—gamesmanship to get Nvidia to reveal its hand early.
The bottom line is that no one, including AMD itself, knows what the final pricing will be on a new graphics card months before launch. There are plans with multiple contingencies, and ultimately the market will help determine the price. We now have Nvidia’s Ampere pricing of $1,499, $699, and $499 for the 3090, 3080, and 3070, respectively. Only AMD knows for sure how RX 6000 stacks up to RTX 30-series in performance, and it will tweak prices accordingly.
There are also multiple reports of a 500mm square or larger die size, and if that’s correct we have to assume Big Navi / Navi 2x graphics cards will go after the enthusiast segment—meaning, $600 or more. TSMC’s 7nm FinFET lithography is more expensive than its 12nm, and larger chips mean yields and dies per wafer are both going to be lower. Plus, 16GB and 12GB of GDDR6 will increase both the memory and board price. Big chips lead to big prices, in other words.
The only real advice we can give right now is to wait and see. AMD will do its best to deliver RDNA 2 and Navi 2x GPUs at compelling prices. That doesn’t mean we’ll get RTX 3080 performance for $500, sadly, but if Big Navi can give Nvidia some much-needed competition in the enthusiast graphics card segment, we should see bang-for-the-buck improvements across the entire spectrum of GPUs. And if AMD really does have an 80-CU monster Navi 21 GPU coming that will match the RTX 3080 in performance, we expect it will charge accordingly — just like it’s doing with Zen 3 CPUs now that it appears to have a clear lead over Intel.
Big Navi and RX 6000 Closing Thoughts
AMD has a lot riding on Big Navi, RDNA 2, and the Radeon RX 6000 series. Just like Nvidia’s Ampere, AMD has a lot to prove. This is the GPU architecture that powers the next generation of consoles, which tend to have much longer shelf lives than PC graphics cards. Look at the PS4 and Xbox One: both launched in late 2013 and are still in use today. There are also still PC gamers with GTX 700-series or R9 200-series graphics cards, but if you’re running such a GPU, we feel for you.
We’re very interested in finding out how Big Navi performs, with and without ray tracing. AMD’s RX 6000 performance teaser only serves to whet our appetites. 50% better performance per watt can mean a lot of different things, and AMD hasn’t shied away from 300W GPUs for the past several generations of hardware. A 300W part with 50% better performance per watt would basically be double the performance of the current RX 5700 XT, and that’s enough to potentially compete with whatever Nvidia has to offer.
Realistically, AMD’s 50% PPW improvements probably only occur in specific scenarios, just like Nvidia’s 90% PPW improvements on Ampere. Particularly for the higher performance parts, we’re skeptical of claims of 50% improvements, but we’ll withhold any final judgement for now. About all we can say is that Nvidia has left the door open for AMD to walk through.
We also hope AMD will manage to avoid the shortages that have plagued Nvidia’s RTX 3080 and 3090 cards. Part of that comes from demand for new levels of performance, so AMD will need to keep pace with Ampere if it hopes to see similar demand. Also, every Ampere GPU purchase prior to Big Navi’s launch means one less buyer for AMD’s GPUs. Still, TSMC can only produce so many N7 wafers per month, and AMD has Navi 10 chips still in production, along with Zen 2 and Zen 3 CPUs, and now Navi 2x. Add in wafers from other companies (Apple, Nvidia, and Intel are all using TSMC N7) and we could see Big Navi shortages until 2021.
Without actual hardware in hand, running actual gaming benchmarks, we can’t declare a victor. Give it another month and we should have all the final details and data in place. The last months of 2020 are shaping up to be very exciting in the GPU world, which is good as the first part of 2020 sucked. Considering it’s been more than a year since AMD’s Navi architecture launched, we’re definitely ready for the next-gen GPUs.
Although they will not reach the market until November 5, some leaks have already They show some excerpts of the performance that the new AMD Ryzen processors 5000, specifically its two flagships , the AMD Ryzen 9 5950 X and the Ryzen 9 5900 X with 16 Y 12 real cores respectively.
In the leaks, where you can see the test results Geekbench 5 in the test database itself, we have scores of 1605 points in single-core and 12869 in multi-core for the Ryzen 9 5900 X and 1. 574 single-core and 12. 605 multi-core for the 5950 X.
The filtered data confirms the 20% more Zen 3 performance compared to the last generation
Scores showing a performance jump of 25 – 25% in single core compared to the last generation based on Zen 2. The Ryzen 9 5950 X also increases a 01% multi-core compared to Ryzen 9 3950 X, while 5900 X exceeds 3900 X.
The tests have been carried out on an MSI X board 570 GODLIKE with 16 GB DDR4 memory – 3600. We will have to wait until November 5 to see the real performance with drivers and final models, but it seems that these leaks confirm the 20% more performance and IPC than AMD promised in the presentation of the Ryzen 5000.
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Until AMD Ryzen processors are released 5000 not much time left. We already know almost everything about them – the manufacturer has officially announced several models for consumers, and despite slightly higher prices than their predecessors, we are impatiently waiting for them to appear in stores. The new Zen 3 architecture should provide a sufficient increase in performance, which is indicated not only by the announcements from AMD, but also by various leaks circulating on the network. The latest news is about the performance of the flagship Ryzen 9 chips 5950 X and 5900 X in Geekbench 5. How did the new processors fare? What can I say – simply delicious. Competition was far behind.
Even though we are talking about the pre-release benchmark results, probably everyone can see that the new generation of Red chips may be worth its fairly high price.
AMD Ryzen 7 5800 X, Ryzen 9 5900 X, Ryzen 9 5950 X – Zen 3 premiere
Without unnecessary extension, let’s start with 12 – Ryzen 9 core model 5900 X. Processor scored 1605 points in the single-thread test and 12869 points in the multithreaded test, which was enough to de-class 10 – Intel Core i9 – 10900 K in both tests (1467 points / 10981 point). In terms of one thread, the new Ryzen is 9% faster, while in multi-thread situations the advantage increases to 17% (although this is mainly due to the additional four threads). In the screenshots below you will find the results of other processors for a better comparison.
AMD Ryzen 9 5950 X OC up to 6 GHz on Apple iMac Pro
Also performed very well 16 -core Ryzen 9 5950 X, although this model will be best compared to 16 – Ryzen 9 Core 3950 X. The leading Vermeer scored 1575 points (one thread) and 13605 points (multi-thread). Despite the surprisingly low result of the first test (5900 X was a bit better here) the upcoming flagship was ahead of its predecessor by as much as 18%. In the second test, the advantage of the new hand was already 10 %. It is true that we are talking about the pre-release results from the benchmark, but probably everyone can see that the new generation of Red chips can be worth its quite high price. Everything will be clear on November 5. Let the waiting sweeten you additionally with the latest photo of all new Ryzen.
After previously sharing benchmark results for the Ryzen 9 5950X, @Tum_Apisak has done it again. This time around, the chip detective uncovered submissions for the Ryzen 5 5600X, which will likely battle it out with Intel’s Core i5-10600K.
Here’s literally everything we know about the Ryzen 5000 series, both official and unofficial, but for a bit of a quick introduction, the Ryzen 5 5600X comes wielding six Zen 3 cores with 12 threads, 32MB of L3 cache, and base and boost clock speeds of 3.7 GHz and 4.6 GHz, respectively. The Core i5-10600K, which also has a six-core, 12-thread design, has 12MB of L3 cache and features a 4.1 GHz base clock and 4.8 GHz boost clock.
The Core i5-10600K clearly boasts higher boost clocks and a more generous thermal limit. Intel’s contender conforms to a 125W TDP (thermal design power) rating, while the Ryzen 5 5600X is rated for 65W. Theoretically, the Core i5-10600K should be faster since it has more breathing room to execute. However, the Ryzen 5 5600X leverages AMD’s groundbreaking Zen 3 microarchitecture, so don’t count the Ryzen 5 5600X out just yet.
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (Image credit: SiSoftware)
You can’t judge a processor’s overall performance based on a couple of benchmarks, though. Furthermore, preliminary benchmarks should be taken with a bucket of salt. However, from what we’re seeing so far, the Ryzen 5 5600X is poised to be a tough rival.
The SiSoftware Sandra submissions show the Ryzen 5 5600X hauling in Processor Arithmetic and Processor Multi-Media scores of 255.22 GOPS and 904.38 Mpix/s, respectively. The average scores for the Core i5-10600K are 224.07 GOPS and 662.33 Mpix/s. That means the Ryzen 5 5600X outperformed the Core i5-10600K by 13.9% and 36.5%, respectively.
On the other hand, the Ryzen 5 3600X has average Processor Arithmetic and Processor Multi-Media scores of 214.89 GOPS and 625.51 Mpix/s, respectively. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 5600X was up to 18.8% and 44.6% faster than its previous-gen counterpart. The performance improvements fall more or less in line with the gains for the Ryzen 9 5950X over the Ryzen 9 3950X.
SiSoftware Sandra’s just one piece of the puzzle. AMD’s Ryzen 5000 processors go up for purchase on November 5. It’s easy to imagine that we’ll have complete reviews of the new Zen 3 chips for your viewing pleasure with that timeframe.
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Adds AVX512 instructions (so far available only on HEDT platform, since Skylake-X). New instructions: AVX512F, AVX512CD, AVX512DQ, AVX512BW, and AVX512VL. New commands: AVX512_IFMA and AVX512_VBMI
20-30% broadening of various number crunching resources, wider execution window, more AGUs
18% IPC gains vs Cascade Lake
SHA-NI and Vector-AES instruction sets, up to 75% higher encryption performance vs. “Skylake”
Supports unganged memory mode
Integrated GPU based on new Gen11 architecture, up to 1 TFLOP/s ALU compute performance
Integrated GPU supports DisplayPort 1.4a and DSC for 5K and 8K monitor support
Gen11 also features tile-based rendering, one of NVIDIA’s secret-sauce features
Integrated GPU supports VESA adaptive V-sync, all AMD FreeSync-capable monitors should work with this
Ice Lake introduces Intel TME (Total Memory Encryption), also Intel Platform Firmware Resilience (Intel PFR)
Intel Core i9-10990XE
Release Date: unknown, originally early 2020, seems cancelled now
22-cores + HyperThreading
Uses Cascade Lake-X architecture
LGA2066 Socket
1 MB L2 cache per core, 30.25 MB shared L3 cache
4 GHz base, up to 5 GHz boost
Roughly matches Threadripper 3960X in Cinebench
Intel Rocket Lake [updated]
Release Date: Q1 2021
Succeeds “Comet Lake”
Variants: Rocket Lake-“S” (mainstream desktop), -“H” (mainstream notebook), -“U” (ultrabook), and -“Y” (low power portable)
14 nanometer production process
Seems to be limited to eight cores (2 less than 10-core Comet Lake)
Some indication of mixed HyperThreading configurations, for example 8-core, 12-thread
Uses “Cypress Cove” core, which seems to be a backport of “Willow Cove” to 14 nm process
Up to 10% IPC improvement over Skylake
No FIVR, uses SVID VRM architecture
125 W maximum TDP
Compatible with 400-series chipsets
Possible they release 500-series chipsets with added features
Socket LGA1200 (just like Comet Lake)
Supports PCI-Express 4.0
20 PCIe lanes
Intel Xe integrated graphics, based on Gen 12 with HDMI 2.0b and DisplayPort 1.4a
Engineering Sample: Family 6, Model 167, Stepping 0, 8c/16t, 3.4 GHz base, 5.0 GHz boost
Engineering Sample: Family 6, Model 167, Stepping 0, 8c/16t, 3.2 GHz base, 4.3 GHz boost
Intel Willow Cove and Golden Cove Cores
Release Date: 2021
Succeeds “Sunny Cove”
Willow Cove improves on-die caches, adds more security features, and takes advantage of 10 nm+ process improvements to increase clock speeds versus Sunny Cove
Golden Cove will add significant single-thread (IPC) increases over Sunny Cove, add on-die matrix multiplication hardware, improved 5G network-stack HSP performance, and more security features than Willow Cove
Intel Alder Lake [updated]
Release Date: H2 2021
Mixes CPU cores of various processing power (and energy consumption), similar to the Big.Little-like designs for mobile devices
Combines up to eight Golden Cove with up to eight Gracemont (Atom) cores
These cores have two different instruction sets, for example Golden Cove has AVX-512, TSX-NI and FP16, which Gracemont lacks
10 nm process
Uses Socket LGA1700
Alder Lake for desktop: 37.5 mm x 45 mm package
Desktop CPUs come in 125 W and 80 W
Could use Foveros 3D Stacking technology
Possible CPU configurations 8+8+1 (8 big cores, 8 small cores, GT1 integrated), and 6+0+1 (6 big cores, no small cores and GT1 integrated)
Includes Gen12 Xe iGPU
DDR5 memory support
PCI-Express 5.0 support
Includes CLDEMOTE instruction, to invalidate cache lines
Intel Sapphire Rapids
Release Date: H2 2021
Successor to Cooper Lake
8-channel DDR5
Uses Socket LGA4677
For enterprise / data center
10 nm+ production process
Willow Cove CPU cores
PCIe 5.0
Probably 7 nm process
Platform name: Eagle Stream
Includes CLDEMOTE instruction, to invalidate cache lines
Intel Grand Ridge [added]
Release Date: 2022 or later
Produced on 7 nm HLL+ process
Successor to Atom “Snow Ridge”
24 cores across 6 clusters with 4 cours each
4 MB L2 per cluster, plus L3 cache
Uses Gracemont CPU core
Dual-channel DDR5
PCI-Expres Gen 4 with 16 lanes
Intel Elkhart Lake
Release Date: Unknown
Produced on 10 nm process
Designed for next-gen Pentium Silver and Celeron processors
CPU cores use Tremont architecture
GPU uses Gen 11
Dual-core and Quad-core configurations
Single-channel memory controller with DDR4 and LPDDR4/x support
Engineering sample: 1.9 GHz, 5/9/12 W TDP
Intel Meteor Lake [updated]
Release Date: 2022 or 2023
Succeeds “Alder Lake”
New microarchitecture, more advanced than “Willow Cove”, possibly “Golden Cove”
As of late 2020 Intel is adding support for Meteor Lake to the Linux Kernel
Lisa Su in a CES 2020 interview said “we will have a high-end Navi […] it is important”
AMD CFO: “Big Navi” will be a halo product and not merely a lofty performance increase over the RX 5700 XT to make AMD competitive against GeForce “Ampere.”
Adds support for DirectX 12 Ultimate: variable-rate shading and hardware-accelerated ray-tracing (DXR version 1.1)
AMD RDNA 2 [updated]
Announcement: October 28
Lisa Su: “we will have our new next-generation RDNA architecture that will be part our 2020 lineup”
TSMC, 7 nm Plus (probably not 7 nm+ EUV)
Up to 18% higher transistor density
Higher clock speeds than RDNA
50% better performance per Watt than RDNA, twice the efficiency as GCN
Adds variable rate shading
Adds support for BFloat16
Adds AV1 video decode hardware acceleration
Adds hardware raytracing acceleration (DXR version 1.1)
Supports Microsoft DirectX 12 Ultimate API /DXR, VRS, Mesh Shaders & Sampler Feedback)
Same GPU architecture powers PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X
AMD Radeon RX 6500 [added]
Release date: unknown
40 Compute Units / 2560 Stream Processors
192-bit GDDR6 memory
7 nanometer production process
RDNA2 architecture
Codename “Navy Flounder”
Below $250
AMD RDNA 3
Release Date: Late 2021 or 2022
“Advanced Node”, probably TSMC 6 nm or 5 nm
AMD CDNA and CDNA2 [updated]
Release Date: 2020 for CDNA and 2021-2022 for CDNA2
New architecture that focuses on compute for “Radeon Instinct”
TSMC 7 nm or 7 nm+
128 Compute Units = 8192 shaders
Arcturus engineering sample has 120 CUs (7680 shaders), 878 MHz for the core clock, 750 MHz SoC clock, and 1200 MHz memory clock
Compute only—Rasterization, display controllers and media encoding hardware removed
SDV OpenCL performance in Geekbench: 55373 points, with 3.53 Gpixels/s in “Sorbel,” 1.30 Gpixels/sec in Histogram Equalization, 16 GFLOPs in SFFT, 1.62 GPixels/s in Gaussian Blur, 4.51 Msubwindows/s in Face Detection, 2.88 Gpixels/s in RAW, 327.4 Mpixels/s in DoF, and 13656 FPS in Particle Physics. Roughly matches 11 CU Vega Picasso IGP
SDV is 15.2 cm long, 96 Execution Units, PCI-Express x16, slot only power (so 75 W), 3x DisplayPort, 1x HDMI, high noise levels
Up to 2x performance uplift for Intel Xe integrated graphics over previous Gen 11
Using a multi-chip design approach, with Foveros, Intel Xe scales up to 512 EUs with 500 W
512 EU model is datacenter only, 300 W 256 EU model for enthusiast markets
Targeted at 1080p gameplay, CES demonstration showed working gameplay on Destiny 2
Could be produced at Samsung to leverage their 10 nm tech, while Intel ramps up its own
Future Xe GPUs could be built on TSMC 6 nm and 3 nm nodes
Raytracing hardware acceleration support will definitely be included on the data-center GPUs (and probably on the consumer models, too)
Double-digit TFLOP/s scaling all the way up to 0.1+ PFLOP/s
Will be used in upcoming Cray Aurora Supercomputer for Argonne National Laboratory in 2021
Targeting a wide segment of markets, including consumer (client-segment) graphics, enthusiast-segment, and data-center compute
Uses new graphics control panel that’s being introduced during 2019
Intel Discrete GPU / Arctic Sound
Release Date: 2020
Intel will hold a world tour in 2019, to build enthusiasm for the new architecture
Advanced management for power and clocks
Test chip: 8×8 mm² die area, 1.54B transistors, 14 nm, 50-400 MHz clock, EUs at 2x clock if needed
Raja Koduri who left AMD in late 2017 is somehow involved
Confirmed to support VESA Adaptive Sync
Intel Ponte Vecchio
Release Date: 2021 or 2022
Discrete GPU
Produced on 7 nanometer production process
Probably not 7 nanometer Intel but 7 nm TSMC or even 6 nm TSMC
Multiple GPU dies will be combined into a single accelerator
Architected “for HPC modeling and simulation workloads and AI training”
Workloads can be processed by GPU and CPU at the same time, using Intel oneAPI
Foveros packaging technology
Xe link to combine multiple GPUs (CXL interconnect)
Release Date: September 2020, at the same time as Zen 3.
Highly likely these were scrapped when AMD decided to enable compatibility with 400 and 500 series chipsets
Socket AM4
Supporting Zen 3 Ryzen 4000 processors
Support for older CPUs very likely, probably at least Ryzen 3000
PCI-Express 4.0
Memory
DDR5 System Memory [updated]
Release Date: Late 2020, probably 2021
JEDEC standard finalized as of Jul 15th 2020
Demo’d in May 2018 by Micron: DDR5-4400
Samsung 16 Gb DDR5 DRAM developed since February 2018
Samsung has completed functional testing and validation of a LPDDR5 prototype: 10 nm class, 8 Gbit, final clocks: DDR5-5500 and DDR5-6400
Samsung has started 16 Gb LPDDR5 mass production in Aug 2020
SK Hynix 4800 – 5600 Mbps, 1.1 V
SK Hynix also has 16 Gb DDR5-5200 samples ready, 1.1 V, mass production expected 2020
April 2020: Hynix has 8.4 Gbps DDR5, minimum density per die is 8 Gbit, maximum is 64 Gbit
ECC is now supported by all dies (no longer specific to server memory modules)
SK Hynix demonstrated DDR5 RDIMM modules at CES 2020: 4800 MHz, 64 GB
Micron is shipping LPDDR5 for use in Xiaomi phones (Feb 2 2020). 5.5 Gbps and 6.4 Gbps
Samsung has begun production for LPDDR5 for mobile devices (Feb 25 2020). 16 GB, 5.5 Gbps
4800 – 6400 Mbps
Expected to be produced using 7 nm technologies
32 banks, 8 bank groups
64-bit link at 1.1 V
Burst length doubled to BL16
Bank count increased from 16 to 32
Fine grain refresh feature
Improved power efficiency enabled by Vdd going from 1.2 V to 1.1 V as compared to DDR4
On-die ECC
Voltage regulators on the DIMM modules
AMD DDR5 memory support by 2021/2022, with Zen 4
HBM2E Graphics Memory [updated]
Release Date: 2020
Offers 3.2 Gbps per pin (33% faster than HBM2)
Rambus offers a 4.0 Gbps memory interface controller
Samsung Flashbolt: 16 Gb per die, 8-layers stacked, 16 GB per chip with 410 GB/s bandwidth
Hynix: 460 GB/s, 3.6 Gbps, eight 16 Gb chips are stacked for a single 16 GB chip
Hynix: mass production has started as of July 2020
HBM3 Graphics Memory
Release Date: Not before 2019
Double the memory bandwidth per stack (4000 Gbps expected)
Expected to be produced using 7 nm technologies
HBMNext Memory [added]
Release Date: Late 2022 or 2023
JEDEC work in progress
Micron involved
GDDR6X Graphics Memory
Release Date: 2020
Will first be used on new GeForce RTX 3000 / Ampere Series
Silicon Fabrication Tech
TSMC 7 nanometer+
Release Date: Q4 2019
TSMC N7+ is successor to original 7 nm node
Uses EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet)
15-20% more density and improved power consumption over N7
TSMC 6 nanometer
Release Date: Unknown
Backwards compatible with 7 nm process—no new design tools needed
Uses EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet), up to four EUV layers
18% higher logic density than N7
TSMC 5 nanometer [updated]
Release Date: March 2020 to tape-out customer designs
Risk production as of Q2 2019
High volume production: Q2 2020
Uses TSMC’s second implementation of EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet)
Up to 1.8x the density of 7 nm
Up to 14 layers
+15% higher clocks
30% better bower than N7
Intel might be a customer of this node
N5P “Plus” node: improvement to N5 while staying on 5 nm, 84-87% increase in transistor densities over N7
TSMC 5 nanometer+
Release Date: 2021
High-volume production in Q4 2020
Uses EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet)
TSMC 4 nanometer [updated]
Mass production: 2023
Codename “N4”
Uses EUV lithography
TSMC 3 nanometer [updated]
April 2020: On-Track
Risk production: 2021
Volume production: H1 2022
FinFET technology
Uses TSMC’s third implementation of EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet)
10-15% speed improvement at iso-power or 25-30% power reduction at iso-speed, compared to N5.
55,000 water per month at the start, 100,000 by 2023
TSMC 2 nanometer [updated]
No details known other than “TSMC has started development”
June 2020: TSMC is accelerating R&D
Sep 2020: Fab construction has begun
Will use Gate-All-Around (GAA) technology
Samsung 6 nanometer
Release Date: Unknown
First product taped out as of Q2 2019
Uses EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet)
Special variant for customers
Samsung 5 nanometer
Release Date: 2020
Ready for customer sample production as of Q2 2019
Mass production in Q2 2020
Yields are challenging as of Q2 2020
Uses EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet)
Up to 25% the density of 7 nm
20% lower power consumption
10% higher performance
Samsung 3 nanometer
Release Date: 2022
50% less power while delivering 30% more performance
45% less silicon space taken per transistor (vs 7 nm)
Intel 7 nanometer
Release Date: 2022 or 2023
Succeeded by 7 nm+ node in 2022, and 7 nm++ in 2023
Uses EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet)
4x reduction in design rules
Planned to be used on multiple products: CPU, GPU, AI, FPGA, 5G networking
Other
Hynix 4D NAND
Release Date: H1 2019
Developed by SK Hynix
Sampling in Q4 2018
Products demonstrated at CES 2020: Platinum P31 M.2 NVMe and Gold P31—PCIe 3.0 x4, using flash, DRAM and controller made by Hynix, over 3 GB/s read/write.
Reduces chip physical size, while increasing capacity at the same time
AMD is allegedly mixing two chip designs with the code name Cezanne (Zen 3) and Lucienne (Zen 2). The top model Ryzen 7 5800 U with eight Zen 3 cores, 16 Threads thanks to Simultaneous Multithreading (SMT) and 16 MByte level 3 cache start. AMD doubles the buffer memory compared to its predecessor Ryzen 7 4800 U.
The Ryzen 7 5600 U is supposed to be a new edition of the Ryzen 7 4800 U: nominally only with 100 to 200 MHz less clock frequency and still 8 MB L3 cache, but due to the Zen-2 architecture with less power per cycle. The same game at Ryzen 5 5600 vs. Ryzen 5 5500 U and Ryzen 3 5400 U vs. Ryzen 3 5300 U. The graphics architecture should continue to be based on Vega in both cases, with the top model Ryzen 7 5800 U with 512 but one shader core 250 MHz high clock increase to 2.0 GHz received.
The specifications come from Twitter user “ExecutableFix”. Rumors about a mix of two chip designs in AMD’s upcoming notebook series were circulating according to TechPowerUp as early as September 2020. The code name “Lucienne” and a matching order number (OPN) named Igor’s Lab in August 2020.
processor Architecture Cores / Threads Base / Boost clock L3 cache GPU TDP Ryzen 7 5800 U Cezanne / Zen 3 8th / 16 2.0 / 4.4 GHz 16 MByte Vega 8 , 2000 MHz 15 W Ryzen 7 5700 U Lucienne / Zen 2 8 / 16 1.8 / 4.3 GHz 8 MByte Vega 8, 1900 MHz 15 W Ryzen 5 5600 U Cezanne / Zen 3 6 / 12 2.3 / 4.2 GHz 12 MByte Vega 7, 1800 MHz 15 W Ryzen 5 5500 U Lucienne / Zen 2 6 / 12 2.1 / 4.0 GHz 8 MByte Vega 7, 1800 MHz 15 W Ryzen 3 5400 U Cezanne / Zen 3 4/8 2 , 6 / 4.0 GHz 8 MByte Vega 6, 1600 MHz 15 W Ryzen 3 5300 U Lucienne / Zen 2 4/8 2.6 / 3, 85 GHz 4 Mbytes Vega 6, 1500 MHz 15 W Differentiation by means of CPU architecture In the 2020 AMD differentiates the models through SMT: The Ryzen 7 4800 U is working 16 Threads from Ryzen 7 4700 U 8. The six-core Ryzen 5 4600 U comes on 12, the little brother Ryzen 5 4500 U to 6. With the successors there would be a gradation due to the different performance per measure (Zen 3 vs. Zen 2) with continuously activated SMT.
AMD has already indicated a two-part strategy for processors with integrated graphics units several times. It is known that Cezanne CPU cores based on Zen 3 and an integrated graphics unit based on the 7 nm-optimized Vega architecture. It is also known that Van Gogh is to appear with Zen 2 cores and Navi2 GPU at the same time. In parallel to Cezanne, AMD is apparently also planning a Lucienne design. Here, AMD apparently plans to use Zen-2 cores with Vega GPUs – so Lucienne is in a certain sense somewhere between Cezanne and Van Gogh.
Twitterer ExecutableFix has the first models of the next APU this weekend Generation and the associated technical data published. This shows that AMD in Ryzen – 4800 U-series will already run on two tracks. There will be models with Zen 2 and Zen 3 cores that are supposed to run parallel to each other. Of course, this harbors the problem that the buyer of a notebook with such a processor has to look very carefully – after all, the Zen 3 architecture should on average be % faster.
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So far, the information is only an unconfirmed rumor. Due to the level of detail of the information and the source as such, doubts about the correctness are very small.
The upcoming product range for mobile Ryzen processors would then look like this:
Comparison of the Ryzen Mobile -Processors
Model
µArch
Cores / Threads
Base / boost clock
GPU
TDP
Ryzen 7 5800 U
Zen 3 Cezanne
8th/16
2.0 / 4.4 GHz
Vega8 2. 000 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
Ryzen 7 5700 U
Zen 2
Lucienne
8th/16
1.8 / 4.3 GHz
Vega8 1.900 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
Ryzen 5 5600 U
Zen 3 Cezanne
6 / 12
2.3 / 4.2 GHz
Vega7 1.800 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
Ryzen 5 5500 U
Zen 2 Lucienne
6 / 12
2.1 / 4.0 GHz
Vega7 1.800 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
Ryzen 3 5400 U
Zen 3 Cezanne
4/8
2.6 / 4.0 GHz
Vega6 1 . 600 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
Ryzen 3 5300 U
Zen 2 Lucienne
4/8
2.6 / 3, 85 GHz
Vega6 1.500 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
For comparison, take another look at the current product range:
Comparison of the Ryzen Mobile processors
Model
µArch
Cores / Threads
Base / boost clock
GPU
TDP
Ryzen 7 4800 U
Zen 2 Renoir
8th/16
1.8 / 4.2 GHz
Vega8 1.750 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
Ryzen 7 4700 U
Zen 2 Renoir
8/8
2.0 / 4.1 GHz
Vega7 1.600 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
Ryzen 5 4600 U
Zen 2 Renoir
6 / 12
2.1 / 4.0 GHz
Vega6 1.500 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
Ryzen 5 4060 U
Zen 2 Renoir
6/6
2.3 / 4.0 GHz
Vega6 1.500 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
Ryzen 3 54300 U
Zen 2 Renoir
4/4
2.7 / 3.7 GHz
Vega5 1.400 MHz
10 – 25 W 15 W
Compared to Ryzen – 4000 U-series offers the Ryzen – 5000 U series apparently no differentiation in models with and without SMT. The new models based on the Zen 3 architecture are also clocked slightly higher across the board or achieve a higher boost clock. The Cezanne and Zen 3 models are likely to be significantly faster, since they also have the architectural improvements to offer in addition to the small clock speed.
The integrated graphics unit has been upgraded. The Ryzen 3 processors now offer at least one Vega GPU with six compute units and thus 384 shader units. In addition, the clock rate is a bit higher across the board – as with the CPU cores.
The higher clock rate of the new Cezanne and Lucienne processors should be due to improved manufacturing. We see this also with the Ryzen – 5000 – processors for the desktop. In an interview with Anandtech, Mark Papermaster, CTO at AMD, confirms that the new processors will continue to be manufactured in 7N (7 nm process from TSMC). Even the Process Design Kit (PDK) is identical, but there will be changes in the actual manufacturing process so that the yield and performance increase a little. It is precisely on this that Lucienne’s slight increase in clock rate compared to Renoir should be related.
This year is no longer with the Ryzen – 5000 U processors to be expected. Instead, AMD should see them in the first quarter 2021 so that we will see the first notebooks in the second quarter – 12 Months after the Renoir models.
Every year we think that we have less and less time, among other things because this impression is intensified by, for example, technology that is developing at an alarming pace. That is why the series of the Most Interesting News of the Last Week was created (or actually reactivated). Every week on Monday, for the busiest PurePC Readers, there will be a material presenting a summary of the news that has enjoyed your greatest interest in the last seven days. Perhaps you will also find in it news that you have missed so far. Without extending it, I invite you to an overview of the most interesting topics of the week from 12 to 18 October 2020.
Last week’s highlights: 12 – 18 October 2020. What interesting happened in the hardware, gaming and broadly understood technology industries? You can find the telegraphic abbreviation below.
An overview of the most interesting topics of the week:
Watch Dogs Legion – hardware requirements for Ray Tracing and DLSS
Entertainment
Ubisoft has published updated hardware requirements for the PC version. In the case of requirements without active Ray Tracing and DLSS, one thing has changed – the AMD Radeon VII card has disappeared in 4K resolution and ultra settings, instead we will find a new NVIDIA GeForce RTX card 3080. More changes have been made to the requirements for the game with ray tracing and DLSS 2.0 enabled.
Read on…
Apple iPhone 12 officially – 4 smartphone models with 5G for everyone
Mobile devices
During the “Hi, Speed” event, Tim Cook reminded not only of the recent premieres of the bitten apple. He also presented the latest model of a smart speaker belonging to the HomePod family (Apple HomePod Mini), but most of all, he presented a new generation of iPhones that stand out from the previous editions primarily with 5G network support.
Read on…
NVIDIA may refresh GeForce RTX graphics cards 3000 in 7 nm
Graphic cards
According to DigiTimes, NVIDIA wants to upgrade its Ampere consumer GPUs to the technol process general 7 nm from TSMC. According to the source, the size of this transition is to be very large. TSMC has now allegedly become more “NVIDIA-friendly”, which may be because much of the company’s production capacity is now focused on the new 5nm lithography.
Read on…
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla – we know the hardware requirements of the PC version
Entertainment
Ubisoft revealed that the absolute minimum resolution 1080 pi 30 Frames per second are Intel i5 Quad Processors – 4460 or Ryzen 3 1200 working with graphics cards like GeForce GTX 960 or AMD R9 380. So these are the hardware requirements similar to Watch Dogs Legion. Also recommended configuration for Full HD and 30 FPS looks almost identical.
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Cyberpunk 2077 – style above all else? These are the vehicles and mods in the game
Entertainment
The fourth Night City Wire show revealed a trailer showing a selection of vehicles in the game, from trucks to armored cars , and ending with limousines and sports carriages (they will have different versions). The representative of the studio revealed that we will “summon” them just like Roach in The Witcher 3 (there was also a reference to her jumping on the roofs).
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AMD A9 – 9820 – Xbox Console Performance in APU for 125 USD?
Motherboards
Unique motherboards appeared on Aliexpress. They have a soldered APU chip in the form of AMD A9 – 9820, which probably comes from the console Xbox One S and offers performance close to the Intel Core i5 processor – 7400. Its price is 125 dollars, or approximately 489 PLN. On the AMD website you won’t find an APU chip like the AMD A9 – 9820, but Chuwi he uses them in his mini PC in the form of the Chuwi AeroBox.
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AMD Ryzen 9 5950 X with OC up to 6 GHz on Apple iMac Pro
Processors
Every day new information about the upcoming Zen 3 processors and a new report appear on the network is directly related to the popular GeekBench 5 benchmark. It tested a new version of the Apple iMac Pro with 16 – AMD Ryzen 9 core processor 5950 X. The information from the GeekBench database shows that the processor during the tests was overclocked to 6 GHz.
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All MSI B motherboards 450 and X 470 will support AMD Ryzen 5000
Motherboards
MSI has officially confirmed that all motherboards with AMD chipset 400 will get a BIOS (beta) that adds support for the latest Ryzen processors 5000. Updates for individual models will be released in January 2020 year. As an aside, we would like to remind you that owners of boards with the AMD chipset 300 (X 370, B 350 and A 320), according to the Reds statement, they will not receive BIOSs with Ryzen support 5000.
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AMD Radeon RX 6000 – new information about graphics cards
Graphic cards
To Partial specification (of course, these are still unofficial parameters) of Radeon RX cards 6000 based on NAVI cores 21 XT and NAVI 21 XL, thanks why we more or less know what to expect. According to the information that appeared on the network, the upcoming cards are to be characterized by high core clocks and a high TGP factor.
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Samsung Galaxy S 21 – the first smartphone renders are disappointing
Mobile devices
Leakster Ice universe has uploaded Samsung Galaxy S renders to its Twitter profile 21 (or S 30, we do not know yet what names the manufacturer will use). First impressions? The presented model looks very similar to the latest top Korean smartphones – on the back we still have a camera island on the left , but this time it has been stretched over the device’s frames, which looks quite interesting.
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Here are some larger materials, which appeared on PurePC last week:
Is CPU restricts GeForce RTX 3080 in graphics places ?
Samsung Galaxy S smartphone test 20 FE – cheaper, not worse
Corsair K Keyboard Test 60 RGB PRO with Cherry Viola switches
EK AIO cooling test 360 D-RGB – Performance above all!
NZXT H1 Case Test – Xbox Series X Better?
Xia Smartphone Test omi Mi 10 T Pro: Pro Edition Night Photography
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The Taiwanese company confirms that all own motherboards with AMD series chipset 400 will receive bios to implement compatibility with new Ryzen processors 5000, debuting in early November
of Paolo Corsini published on 19 October 2020 , at 09: 02 in the Motherboards and Chipsets channel Zen RyZen AMD MSI
MSI officially confirmed, with a press release issued on its website at this address, that will make updated bios available for all its AMD series chipset based motherboards 400 . This will provide full support for AMD Ryzen series processors 5000 , allowing owners of these motherboards to upgrade their system.
AMD CPUs of the Ryzen family 5000 will be on sale from the first days of November in versions with a maximum of 16 core. They are based on 7 nanometer manufacturing technology and integrate the new Zen 3 architecture , for which AMD has stated an increase of IPC (Instruction per Clock, i.e. number of instructions that can be processed for each clock cycle) increased on average by 19% compared to Ryzen processors 3000 now on the market.
MSI has already made available updated bios compatible with the new processors for its AMD chipset-based motherboards of the family 500 . AMD had indicated that for some models of AMD chipset based motherboards 400 an updated compatible bios would be made available, not going to specify the support for all the cards.
MSI has instead chosen to provide support for all these motherboards, without defining a precise timing of availability for the new bios. According to advance information from AMD, it will be necessary to wait until January to be able to install the new Ryzen processors 5000 on motherboard with chipset 400.
MSI, finally, specified in its press release that at the present time AMD does not plan to provide support to the use of Ryzen processors 5000 with motherboards based on series chipsets 300 . By the time AMD were to release bios sources that implement this support, MSI has already made itself available to develop specific bios versions for its motherboards with AMD chipset 300 that extend compatibility to these processors as well.
The alleged technical specifications circulate online of the entire Ryzen range 5000 U series, formed by a mix of models belonging to the Cezanne project, based on Zen 3 architecture, and Lucienne, a Renoir refresh again based on Zen 2 core.
by Manolo De Agostini published on 19 October 2020 , at 08: 36 in the Processors channel AMD RyZen Zen
In 2021 AMD will present, as per tradition, a new family of APUs for the mobile segment which will be part of the Ryzen
series . The name will be the same as the Zen 3 desktop CPUs debuting on November 5th, due to AMD’s choice to skip the Ryzen family 4000 on desktop in order to align the nomenclature with the architectures.
Based on the latest rumors spread on Twitter, which reinforce previous rumors, the new range of mobile APUs will be based on two projects, one called Cezanne and one Lucienne , at least as far as the proposals of the U series with TDP of 15 W (configurable between 10 W e 25 W). Cezanne is the name of a totally new APU based on Zen 3 architecture, while Lucienne will again use Zen 2 architecture. The Ryzen range 5000 mobile will therefore be a mix of these solutions, with higher operating frequencies of 85 MHz compared to the Renoir solutions of the series 4000 and a more powerful GPU for some models than their predecessors.
First name
Code name
Core / Thread
Base Clock
Boost Clock
Core GPU
GPU Clock
AMD Ryzen 5000 U
Ryzen 7 5800 U
Cezanne (Zen3)
8C / 16 T
2 GHz
4.4 GHz
8
2 GHz
Ryzen 7 5700 U
Lucienne (Zen2)
8C / 16 T
1.8 GHz
4.3 GHz
8
1.9 GHz
Ryzen 5 5600 U
Cezanne ( Zen3)
6C / 12 T
2.3 GHz
4.2 GHz
7
1.8 GHz
Ryzen 5 5500 U
Lucienne (Zen2)
6C / 12 T
2.1 GHz
4 GHz
7
1.8 GHz
Ryzen 3 5400 U
Cezanne (Zen3)
4C / 8T
2.6 GHz
4 GHz
6
1.6 GHz
Ryzen 3 5300 U
Lucienne (Zen2)
4C / 8T
2, 6 GHz
3, 85 GHz
6
1.5 GHz
AMD Ryzen 4000 U
Ryzen 7 4800 U
Renoir (Zen2)
8C / 16 T
1.8 GHz
4.2 GHz
8
1, 75 GHz
Ryzen 7 4700 U
Renoir (Zen2)
8C / 8T
2 GHz
4.1 GHz
7
1.6 GHz
Ryzen 5 4600 U
Renoir (Zen2)
6C / 12 T
2.1 GHz
4 GHz
6
1.5 GHz
Ryzen 5 4500 U
Renoir (Zen2)
6C / 6T
2.3 GHz
4 GHz
6
1.5 GHz
Ryzen 3 4300 U
Renoir (Zen2)
4C / 4T
2.7 GHz
3.7 GHz
5
1.4 GHz
For example, the Ryzen 7 5700 U should have the same number of cores and threads as the 5800 U, and also the same number of Comput Units (CU) as the GPU, with the architecture (Zen 2 and not Zen 3) being the main difference. The GPU architecture, on the other hand, will always be Vega (Graphics Core Next), as the transition to RDNA 2 is only foreseen in the 2022, although optimized to reach higher frequencies.
The Ryzen range 5000 should finally see another change from the series 4000, with U series models all equipped with SMT (Simultaneous Multi-Threading) active, where three Renoir models do not have one and therefore do not offer logical cores but only physical cores.
Just a few hours ago we wrote about the AMD Ryzen 5 APU specification 5600 U that appeared on the web. I am talking about 6-core and 12 – a threaded APU processor for laptops, based on Zen 3 cores and integrated Vega graphics chip. Now we come back to the topic, because the same source also presented the specification of the other APU processors from the Ryzen series 5000-AT. Some of these units belong to the Lucienne-U series which is just a streamlined version of the Renoir. In turn, some of the processors in question are new designs based on the Zen 3 architecture. However, all the upcoming APUs have a common denominator, which are graphics systems based on the Vega architecture.
all AMD Ryzen APUs are specified 5000 – U – some of them belong to the Lucienne series , others for Cezanne.
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 U – Cezanne APU specification
AMD is working on a total of six APU Ryzen processors 5000 – U – three of them will use Zen cores 2 (Lucienne-U), three more will be based on the Zen 3 (Cezanne-U) architecture. We expect Cezanne-H processors to have a similar block configuration, but with correspondingly increased core clocks and higher TDP. The processors to be allocated to the Lucienne-U series are: AMD Ryzen 3 5300 U, AMD Ryzen 5 5500 U and AMD Ryzen 7 5700AT. AMD Ryzen 5 5400 U, AMD Ryzen 5 5600 U and AMD Ryzen 7 5800 U are Cezanne-U circuits based on the newer and improved Zen 3 cores.
Specification
Ryzen 3 5300 U
Ryzen 5 5400 U
Ryzen 5 5500 U
Ryzen 5 5600 U
Ryzen 7 5700 U
Ryzen 7 5800 U
Architecture
Zen 2 / Vega
Zen 3 / Vega
Zen 2 / Vega
Zen 3 / Vega
Zen 2 / Vega
Zen 3 / Vega
Family
Lucienne-U
Cezanne-U
Lucienne-U
Cezanne-U
Lucienne-U
Cezanne-U
Lithography
7 nm
7 nm
7 nm
7 nm
7 nm
7 nm
Cores / threads
4C / 8T
4C / 8T
6C / 12 T
6C / 12 T
8C / 16 T
8C / 16 T
Base clock
2.6 GHz
2.6 GHz
2.1 GHz
2.3 GHz
1.8 GHz
2.0 GHz
Turbo Clock
3, 85 GHz
4.0 GHz
4.0 GHz
4.2 GHz
4.3 GHz
4.4 GHz
IGPU Chip
Vega 6
Vega 6
Vega 7
Vega 7
Vega 8
Vega 8
iGPU Clock
1500 MHz
1600 MHz
1800 MHz
1800 MHz
1900 MHz
2000 MHz
L3 Cache
4 MB
8 MB
8 MB
12 MB
8 MB
16 MB
TDP
15 In
15 W
15 In
15 In
15 W
15 In
As you can see, AMD has completely ditched units with no support for multithreading in its upcoming series of low-voltage processors. All upcoming units will support SMT, thus offering even higher efficiency. So far, laptop manufacturers have used APU much more often, i.e. Ryzen 5 4500 U or Ryzen 7 4700 U that did not use SMT. Particular series of processors also received Vega graphics chips with more CU blocks. The exception is the Ryzen 7 5800 U, which still has the Vega 8 graphics chip, but with the highest clock 2000 MHz (the current Vega 8 has a clock 1750 MHz). Ryzen 3 processors will get Vega 6 instead of Vega 5, Ryzen 5 processors will get Vega 7 instead of Vega 6. Ryzen 5 5700 U will also receive iGPU Vega 8 (instead of Vega 7), but with a slightly lower clock reaching the maximum 1900 MHz. Looking at the clocks in Turbo mode, we can expect that AMD Ryzen 5 processors will receive similar values 5600 H and Ryzen 7 5800 H, 4.2 GHz and 4.4 GHz respectively. The manufacturer will certainly introduce the top Ryzen 9 units with even higher clock speeds. In addition, we know from the leak that the top AMD Ryzen 7 5800 U will receive twice as much L3 cache – 16 MB instead of 8 MB. Smaller units will also get more L3 caches. The premiere of APU Lucienne and Cezanne is expected in January. Perhaps then we will also know the details of the third series of Van Gogh (Athlon 4000).
I do love me some teasers. Let’s talk business now. Cezanne and Lucienne
OPN 100 – 0000000285 Ryzen 7 5800 U (Zen 3 Cezanne) 8 cores / 16 threads 2.0GHz base – 4.4GHz boost 8 CU @ 2.0GHz 16 MB L3 cache 10 – 25 In cTDP
Next year, AMD will introduce a total of three series of APU processors to laptops – Van Gogh (Athlon processors) with Zen 2 cores and an integrated graphics chip based on RDNA architecture, Lucienne being a refreshed version of Renoir (Zen 2 / Vega) and Cezanne. The last of the mentioned groups will use the new Zen 3 cores, but will also still be based on Vega graphics chips. From the information that appeared a few weeks ago, we know that in the case of low-voltage processors, four units will appear: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 U, Ryzen 5 5600 U, Ryzen 5 5700 U and Ryzen 5 U .
Information on the AMD Ryzen 5 processor 5600 U for laptops has appeared on the network. It will use the improved Zen 3 cores.
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 U is to be a 6-core processor and 12 – threaded, similar to Ryzen 5 4600 U. It will be based on Zen 3 cores and integrated Radeon Graphics with 7 Compute Units. This means that we will get 1 CU more compared to the current Ryzen 5 processors from the Renoir family. The iGPU clock speed will also be higher, amounting to 1800 MHz. For comparison, the current Vega 6 chips with Ryzen 5 4600 U / 4600 H have a clock 1500 MHz, while Vega 7 with Ryzen 7 4700 U / Ryzen 7 4800 H clock 1600 MHz.
– ExecutableFix (@ExecuFix) October 17, 2020
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 U will also have a higher clock speed despite the unchanged TDP at 15 In (configurable from 1600 to 25. The base clock of the processor is to be 2.3 GHz, while in Boost mode it will reach 4.2 GHz. For comparison, the AMD Ryzen 5 processor 4600 U clocked at 2.1 GHz and 4.0 GHz, respectively. Therefore, the clock speed will be 200 MHz higher compared to its predecessor. Premiere of APU AMD Cezanne and Luc
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